Wendy Williams made headlines with an interview in XOJane.com last week, where she stated that when it comes to going under the knife, “My people will not go for any kind of surgery. We are supposed to be natural. Ugh, whatever.”
When asked her thoughts on those who are judgmental about her body enhancement, she said, “They are jealous. Because if I said to that person, “I got the doctor and I’m going to pay for it. Choose three things you want to do,” believe me, they would get it done. They are very jealous and scared. Scared of what their other friends would say, or to break out of the box and be different. And being black? Ugh, please.”
Of course Wendy went on to talk about her proclivity for wigs (she said, “Full blown wigs are looked at as the worst, in terms of hair type fakery…. a wig is something that is acceptable for your old aunt, but not for a modern girl,”), but her statement regarding black women and surgery still stands. How do you feel about going under the knife? And if money were no object, would you go for it?
I, personally, have a seemingly indestructible pooch, that won’t go flat no matter how much I try. I know that if I changed my diet just slightly it might stand a chance, but I haven’t been able to get those washboard abs just yet. I’ve thought to myself, “Hmm…what if I get a tummy tuck?” but of course haven’t seriously considered it…and wouldn’t it be nicer to simply work out and eat right to get the results you want? That said, I don’t think I’d be opposed to a little nip and tuck later in life. I wouldn’t touch my face (and my bust is AOK), but I’d probably go for a little lipo.
What about you?
Read Wendy’s full interview and catch pix of her makeunder at www.xojane.com.
May 22, 2012 11:58 am
No, and not because I’m jealous. I’m not judgemental about others going under the knife, good riddance, but I can’t imagine any proceedure worth risking my life for…
In the words of Big Pun…I just lost 100lbs, I’m trying to live
May 22, 2012 11:59 am
I agree with you and would NEVER do anything to my face, that’s way too much IMO. I actually plan to get a breast augmentation due to how much volume I lost after breastfeeding my son. I’m very self conscious now because of how flat (literally) my chest is.
May 22, 2012 12:00 pm
Listen I am not going to judge an older woman for getting work, it’s not easy to age in this country, especially if you are in the public eye. I would definitely get a lift when I am older, I am busty eventually things sag. But changing the shape of my nose, chin implants, butt implants NO THANKS.
May 22, 2012 12:05 pm
Yes! I want a breast reduction (which will happen soon), liposuction on my tummy, arms, and thighs, and eventually a forhead lift. I’m only 18, but I feel as if I’m not adding anything, but subtracting. The lipo will probably not happen, because I can shed the weight, but I despise my massive breast. I find them unnatractive!
May 22, 2012 12:06 pm
I’m not opposed to a “little work”.
May 22, 2012 12:12 pm
I could see if Kelly Rowland was giving this interview, but please, NO ONE is jealous of Wendy, but if it makes her feel good about herself to think so, let her live with her delusions. I would get minor work done, but I’m generally opposed to surgery except in life threatening/altering situations.
May 22, 2012 12:15 pm
I would do Lipo once I’m done having kids. Nip here, tuck here. I wouldn’t touch my face, though, but I’m going to inherit jowls, so when i’m about 60 or so, I might want to get a teeeeny bit of fillers around my mouth. Years of flashing this *gorgeous* smile might force me to do so!
May 22, 2012 12:19 pm
I’m not sure. I don’t know if I’m willing to put my life on the line to loose a couple of dress sizes. Who knows how I’ll feel after having kids. I definitely would never consider altering my face.
May 22, 2012 12:21 pm
Wendy’s story is the story of the ugly duckling. She has EXTREME self esteem issues. Who are we fooling, she looks much better with nip tuck, wigs and botox. So you naturally pretty gals, be grateful!
May 22, 2012 12:24 pm
Women who have not set foot into a day spa or dermatoligist have no clue to how many procedures are out there. Nowdays there is little surgery..just needles w/fillers. There are hot/cold lazers that can even your skin, chemical peels that rid you of acne. Lazers that melt fat vs. cutting and sucking out the fat. Just like anything white women do….black women will wait few years before they take it to a whole notha level. Pretty soon they will out number all women heading to the doc’s office to get fixed.
May 22, 2012 12:25 pm
I wouldnt mind a little work and I dont think theres anything wrong with it ! I’ve thought of maybe one or too injections in the booty area along with a little lipo in my tummy!
but ppl like Wendy, Kim Kardashian, Lil Kim, even Nicki Minaj i believe those all women who have deep rooted issues when it comes to there looks.
I agree with @Kat if it were Kelly Rowland, Beyonce or even Jennifer Lopez giving this interview I’d be able to take what they were saying a little more serious.
May 22, 2012 12:28 pm
I would get braces. I am 27 with the worst overbite and huge gap anyone has ever seen. SAD……..
May 22, 2012 12:31 pm
Nope no thanks, I like myself warts and all. And honestly it’s sooooo obvious when work is done and 80% of the time it looks awful which defeats the point. I managed to get myself wifed up by a good man the way I am, I might have off days when I look at myself sideways but clearly I’m fine since I rock his boat lol.
May 22, 2012 12:39 pm
@Dominique I currently have braces in and I can’t wait for the end results and along with that will be having get jaw surgery to correct my open bite. Once my braces are off I have to whiten my teeth because the glue from the braces will leave a mark.
May 22, 2012 12:39 pm
Honestly, I wouldn’t do. I think plastic surgery is painful and EXTREMELY overrated. I had a breast reduction last year and although I am happy with the results, actually doing it is SO MUCH WORK! Plastic surgery is time consuming, exhausting and just not worth the effort. Love you people!
May 22, 2012 12:39 pm
Never say never
May 22, 2012 12:43 pm
i would do it!!
May 22, 2012 12:45 pm
as long as my doctors said it’s ok i’d like a tummy tuck and boob job, please.
May 22, 2012 12:51 pm
I would never touch my face..That’s my heritage, my ancestry. And my body? I would rather hit the gym then opt for major surgery. My vanity has limits.
May 22, 2012 12:51 pm
i am definitely having work done after I have kids. And Wendy please do not project your self hate on “the people”. For the most part your tummy tuck looks horrid and breast job dreadful. Hell yeah black folks are scared when they look AT YOU. I mean Fudge! you make me scared to get some post pregnancy reconstuctive surgery, if their is even as little of 0.5% chance I’d come out lookng like your TRON from avengers lookin self. Please release your Sugeons name so I know exactly where not to go.
May 22, 2012 12:56 pm
absolutely! I’d get a tummy tuck and a little lipo
May 22, 2012 12:57 pm
Wendy…girl…nobody is jealous of you.
May 22, 2012 12:58 pm
and a breast lift.
May 22, 2012 1:06 pm
Breast implants and a nose job…. My nose is monstrous…. But not typical African American shaped. I’ve actually had complete strangers ask my nationality because my nose ” isn’t black” but yea if someone else is paying for it hell I’d go all out…. Veneers too! Lol
May 22, 2012 1:13 pm
Jealous of Wendy! Girl you must be kiddin’ lol! Please, ain’t no on jealous of you! omg lol!
Now on to the question: I can’t because of religious reasons. If I could though, I would want a larger butt, hips, and thighs. I could easily do this with more eating, however, I can’t gain weight so easily. If there is a surgery to help me add fat to these places, I would, if I could.
May 22, 2012 1:14 pm
@lynn, that’s unfortunate. There’s a girl at my school, Indian, with a big Barbara Streisand-esque schnozzle. I can’t stand her, but honestly, if she changed that nose, it would be a real pity. I love those prominent noses, it adds some depth to beauty. I’m just mad that beautiful nose has to be attached to that bitch. But back to you lynn, your nose is probably gorgeous ;-)
May 22, 2012 1:19 pm
@shawn i agree wholeheartedly. vanessa williams is open abt her plastic surgery & no one hates bc she looks good, meanwhile wendy williams literally looks like a monster. gtfoh
May 22, 2012 1:21 pm
So, I would and I am. Getting a nose job in a few weeks (note: I’ve had 18 years to think this over so I’m not changing my mind). My nose is not the least bit proportional to the rest of my face so I’m going for it. I’d consider lipo a little later on too but for right now, that’s about it.
May 22, 2012 1:22 pm
@Lyn..it sounds like u need to get in the GYM!!!
May 22, 2012 1:29 pm
My feeling on cosmetic surgery is, there are some people who look better and some who look worse. If you can look like a NATURAL better version of yourself do it. Because fake looks worse than flaws. For example the Jackson family nose looks so fake it’s disturbing. Nene leaks nose looks more natural so that fine to me. Cassie’s breasts fake plastic rubber balls. Vivica Fox’s look more natural and therefore better. Nicki Minaj and Lil Kim just gross. People need to know when to stop.
As for Wendy- I can’t stand her. I hate it when people make generalized statements about black ppl. We are not uniform. We all have our own individual opinions. Clearly from the comments I’m reading here we all are not against cosmetic surgery.
May 22, 2012 1:31 pm
Please…I’d feel No shame in getting a little tummy tuck say, after I’m done having kids… I agree wouldn’t want to touch my face… I find nothing wrong with aging gracefully – it’s a beautiful thing and should be embraced. But the extra weight, if I can’t get it off once I start having kids….tummy tuck here I come! lol!
May 22, 2012 1:33 pm
I have a serious overbite and two rabbit teeth and big lips, i can’t wait to snatch up some money to fix.
i think I would be happier with them fixed but my life goes on as a happy me without them.
My man is cool with them and has never complained….I’ve been blessed to skinny bones. I took medication to gain some few pounds to add some curves to my body shape…I which I had Wendy’s money and fame but i wouldn’t wanna experience her problems either…heck!, that doesn’t make me jealous of her!
May 22, 2012 1:36 pm
A breast lift will definitely be on the agenda in my later years. I don’t have much to begin with and children will surely pull them south. Gotta keep it tight!
May 22, 2012 1:45 pm
It took me 6 months to lose 30 lbs and now I’m on the road going towards the last 20 lbs to make ME happy. I did it by working out and changing my eating habits and having self discipline… I never understood why others couldn’t do the same, but I won’t judge if you wanna get a nip/tuck. Surgeries scare me, you never know what will happen while you are under— prime example Kanye’s mother ! Our society is all about looking good, and most people would risk their lives to look the best they can.
May 22, 2012 1:57 pm
No one knows what they will look like in 30 years. That said, if I had the cash and the desire today or when I’m 50 to have something done, I’m doing it!
May 22, 2012 2:06 pm
If I had the money, I’d go for a breast lift ASAP.
May 22, 2012 2:06 pm
Well, i had surgery and totally regret it – I actually look worse. Remember you are putting your life in someone else’s hand. The surgeons describe it as a little proceedure but it isn’t. It actually takes MONTHS if not years to recover and no changes can be made within 9 months. Stay away generally.
May 22, 2012 2:22 pm
I’m having breast reduction… I have no problem with going under the knife…as long as I have some time on the job. lol I’m having my teeth done in Aug,and y’all won’t be able to tell me nothing! lol It all about feeling good in your skin..but in Wendy’s case,she looks bad because her insides are bad,and she does these surgeries for others approval… She is always fishing for a compliment. She is one lost old head.
May 22, 2012 2:26 pm
Absolutely!!!!! I have a couple problem areas that I’m not happy with despite diet & excercise. I think it’s perfectly fine to do just don’t take it too far like Lil Kim, Heidi Whatsherbutt? & those who use it to make themselves look like a completely different person.
May 22, 2012 2:37 pm
I wouldn’t do it. This is the my face is a perfect combinations of my parents and grandparents. Hopefully one day my children will have this face, and I love that. I love families who look a lot alike, so I can’t see myself changing it. I’ve thought about a boob job, but after trying on VS’s Miraculous bra I can tell bigger boobs would only make me look fat. Plus I never have any complaints about my handful owwww. lol
May 22, 2012 2:41 pm
Lipo on my thighs and tummy definitely! I would do a peel on my face maybe. And is there a treatment for stretchmarks?! I’m young with no kids, but hello, black skin has the worst stretchmarks! Breast, hips, arms! But I think that’s it.
May 22, 2012 2:51 pm
i think its different types on surgical enhacements….if you want a simple nose job, boob lift, tummy tuck, etc. I get it…but when you starting going into the danger zone, like LIL Kim, and MJ, etc…trying to look like total different people. I think is a PROBLEM, self hating/loathing problem
May 22, 2012 2:54 pm
yes, if i had money, i would have my nose done. i like little noses, i don’t have one, so yes, if i had money, i would do it. i would not go crazy on it, just change it a little. but nothing else, i can work out and get my body back. but i don’t think anyone is jealous of wendy.
May 22, 2012 3:02 pm
If I had the funds I would get a brazilian butt lift and a breast lift.
May 22, 2012 3:03 pm
wow….at the respones…to answer the question…no, I don’t need it and genes allow me to pretty much know I will never need it…
May 22, 2012 3:28 pm
Wow, I expect better from Wendy Williams. I disagree, people look down on surgery for enhancements like breast and nose, because getting those surgeries show how vain you truly are. God created us in his likeness and when you get to heaven looking different, how will he feel knowing you didn’t like his creation. And what are you telling little girls Wendy, “go get big boob” and if you have a little pouch “go head and slice it out”… no teach children to love their body FLAWS and ALL. SMH
May 22, 2012 3:29 pm
I agree with DarkEmpress, I wouldn’t do plastic surgery because it feels like a crap shoot to me, either you are going to look really natural and fantastic i.e. Kelly Rowland and Halle Berry or something is going to look off or unnatural looking i.e. Lil Kim, Wendy Williams, and a few others. I think the reason so many people of color shy away from plastic surgery is that plastic surgery is not gear towards enhancing “ethnic” features but mostly use to erase them which gives an unnatural appearance in most, even if the surgery goes the way it is “supposed” to go. To me it takes a SKILLED plastic surgery to work with and understand the features of people of color to know what to do and how to do it to keep the natural look, especially for nose jobs. I’ am not oppose to plastic surgery I understand minor upkeeps here and there but major plastic surgery I would say no but to each their own.
May 22, 2012 3:31 pm
***Surgeon
May 22, 2012 3:33 pm
Ive lost 50lbs and need to lose 20-30lbs more to run a full marathon.. and the day i finish my 26.2miles im rewarding myself with a new set of twins…i can work my chest out in the gym and if you ever lost a significant amount of weight then you know what its like to want to fix somethings that went south… I love everything else but somethings cant be made in the gym or the kitchen so im gonna go see a doctor to do them.
May 22, 2012 3:34 pm
I’ve really been blessed looks wise, but I can’t knock those women who want to try it out. We make such a big deal about women’s beauty in this country and then complain when they go to extremes to feel better about themselves. It’s unfair really.
Also, I’d buy Kelly Rowland’s boobs in a hot minute!
May 22, 2012 3:44 pm
I disagree with Wendy. Black women get plastic surgery! And I’d absolutely get some if money wasn’t an object. No question.
May 22, 2012 3:54 pm
Wendy Williams is generally very insecure and it shows in how she looks. It’s probably her mental state and appearance that really rub people the wrong way when they make comments about the work she’s gotten done, not jealousy. O_o
Despite the stigma, I know quite a few black women who have had work done and it looks good on most of them because they knew when to stop. I’m not against plastic surgery but it’s hard to not cringe when I think about it, because usually mentioning surgery conjures grotesque images of people who have had it to the extreme (MJ, Lil Kim, The Lion Lady, Joan Rivers, etc) and that becomes the turn off.
Other than that I have a pooch that refuses to go away. No matter how hard I work out or how clean my diet is, it won’t get completely flat. If I could afford it I’d get it taken care of. However, I’ve accepted and made peace with the fact that this may never change. Such is life.
May 22, 2012 3:57 pm
Why does she think he can speak for an entire race of people? Especially someone who looks and acts like her?
I have no problem admitting I want a little work. And who’s to care? Im embarassed to have her as a platform in the media. I remember her radio shows and interviews and this wholesome wendy williams act is way to phony for me to stomach.
I will say, whomever she surrounds herself with are good bc they keep her self esteem high… Good for her.
…But uh, yeah, she can keep those delusions stashed underneath those wigs because “no1 curr”
May 22, 2012 4:06 pm
Money is an object for me, but I am still saving to get a nose job and some crooked teeth fixed next year.
May 22, 2012 4:06 pm
Im not opposed to going under the knife, but I am opposed to the foolishness that was michael jackson, wendy williams, lil kim, and anyone else that thinks looking like a science project is hot. Its a mess, and they need to stop it. Its not jealousy, and no one would be talking about it if it werent so obvious and ridiculous.
May 22, 2012 4:24 pm
#teamplasticsurgery
I think you can put something back if you want…tits, tummy…wouldn’t mess with my face.
I’ve only had one child so off to the gym I go. But I have friends who have four and five and I tell them all the time…you know you have earned the right to get a tuck or a lift…
May 22, 2012 4:26 pm
and also, I love wendy to death but she is wrong. Black women do whatever they want now and it is only an issue if you look like someone else. She has an extreme personality so she should know better…
May 22, 2012 4:44 pm
Lipo for my lower ab would be first on my list.
May 22, 2012 4:47 pm
NEWS FLASH! J.Lo, Kelly Rowland and Beyonce (just to name a few) has had plastic surgery!!! (good plastic surgery.com) never say never! I would subtract but not add. I’m not sure about the jealously part but hey if it makes Wendy feel better. I know plenty of Black women who had they breast enlarged and reduced. whatever floats your boat.
May 22, 2012 5:05 pm
I definitely want to get lipo & a breast lift would be nice. I’ve packed on about 20 unwanted pounds but with working tons of hours & being a single mother, I don’t have time to “live in the gym” as others do. Hell I barely have time to visit. My diet is pretty good but diet isn’t enough sometimes.
May 22, 2012 5:19 pm
I am an african american female and i am getting a tummy tuck later this year! I have 3 kids and a c-section cut that will not go away… Cant wait to go under the knife!!
May 22, 2012 8:36 pm
Money shouldn’t be the issue. Finding a qualified doctor who has verifiable experience (and success) working with dark skin tones is the issue.
Note to all, *all* Black people are considered as Level 6 skin tones (the scale only goes from 1-6…in Canada anyway) so ask if your cosmetic surgeon has worked with dark tones. Why shell out for surgery if you’re only going to scar or get burnt?
May 22, 2012 8:44 pm
Yes! I would first get a tummy tuck because after 2 c-sections that dreadful skin hangs when the stomach is flat, also a chin reduction because it would have to balance the nose job which would a smaller version of my nose,lol! Until then, I’m surviving lmbo!
May 22, 2012 9:35 pm
I would get a tummy tuck seriously in a heartbeat if I had the money
May 22, 2012 11:23 pm
I’ve thought about a nose job, but I am definitely too scared that something may go wrong, and then I’d have to have ANOTHER surgery to correct it, and end up looking like the late great Michael Jackson. So I’ll have to pass.
May 22, 2012 11:56 pm
her chest is bigger than us…..
May 23, 2012 12:30 am
Yeah, from the comments Wendy has made, you can definitely tell that someone (probably Black) said something foul to her about her surgery, and that’s why she feels the way she does. She has to learn not to generalize everyone off of one or a couple of people’s actions.
As for myself getting surgery, I would love to get a breast lift and a nose job. As soon as I got to a C cup, my breasts started to sag, with the them being not perpendicular (pointing forward), but adjacent to my body. I even have to sleep with my bra on, because it feels so uncomfortable laying against my body.
And as far as my nose…it was cute when I was a child, but now I feel like it has taken over my face. And I hate it. I feel like I have a man nose, or what I have seen referred to on a plastic surgery site, I have inherited my dad’s nose. It looks fine on him, but as a woman, I want to look feminine.
I am so glad that this convo is being had on an urban website, because I’ve always felt in a way guilty about the nose thing, because I felt like people would think that I was doing it to look more “white”, so to speak. Luckily, I’ve grown comfortable and secure with my decision, now that I can explain it. And it’s nice to hear that I am not the only one with these insecurities. Every woman, no matter what race, can find something that she would like to change about her appearance. Just as long as the work/surgery still looks natural, I say go for it.
May 23, 2012 8:37 am
I guess I’m the only one who would shoot for a butt like Nicki Minaj’s. I gotta admit, I’m quite OBSESSED with my body and everytime i see someone who has the perfect body I get very jealous. I know it is the inside that counts but the outer part is also very important to me. Maybe i’m just brainwashed by society, you can say anything, i don’t know. If I would have the money I’d surely let some work been done on my hips, butt, thighs, arms, and lips. I think everyone is free to do with their body whatever they want.
May 23, 2012 8:54 am
I have the same problem! I’m 20 and I was an overweight child I lost 53lbs but I still have a pooch so as soon as I can spell able, Lipo here I come!!!
May 23, 2012 9:13 am
Wendy Williams’ persona is ugly inside & out. She’s happy with the way she looks now so God bless but to me she looks hideous.
Re the question – no, I wouldn’t change a thing about my face but I suffer from “noassatall” syndrome and in my younger days would’ve considered some type of butt enhancement but today, I just exercise.
May 23, 2012 10:19 am
If I birth children and body parts begin to slide south, I will nip/tuck in a heart beat. Sometimes all the working out in the world won’t lift what needs to be lifted.
May 23, 2012 10:19 am
Dear Mrs. Wendy i want breast, && body sculpture and a pair of Loub’s to enhanced my legs
Thankyou my Sista !!
May 23, 2012 11:39 am
No one is jealous of this man.and yeah if i had money i would fix a few things…tummy tuck, lipo.I would never touch my nose or my face!Plastic surgeons dont know how to work on black features.
May 23, 2012 12:20 pm
I personally won’t get any work done but if someone else wants to? Fine with me. I’ve got my own issues in life to worry about jare.
May 23, 2012 12:36 pm
@ bola
I think Patti Labelle and Kelly Price’s noses look quite natural. You just have to find a surgeon who specializes in ethnic rhinoplasty. And if they are able to show you their past work, and a digital picture/example of what your nose should look like after surgery, that’s even better. It’s all about doing your research.
May 23, 2012 3:50 pm
To the female who says “I doubt I’d ever need it”…lol don’t speak so fast… A car accident can change that quote in a quick minute.
May 23, 2012 4:35 pm
yes, not to my face but i had a baby and although some women go back to normal, i did not so yes yes yes.
in fact that is the plan.
May 23, 2012 4:38 pm
I’m okay with plastic surgery. After I have kids if I can’t lose the rest of the weight and I’m done birthing children ( I’m all about adoption !) I would get a tummy tuck. I might even get breast implants of they used fat from other parts of my body, but no matter what I get nipped or tucked or implanted I’m still me underneath :)
May 23, 2012 9:25 pm
Hell to the yeah. Tomorrow
May 23, 2012 10:31 pm
I have nothing against plastic surgery, but it’s not for me… for Wendy to suggest that people are jealous because she’s able to get plastic surgery says a bit about her self esteem… just sayin.
May 24, 2012 12:39 pm
I would! Id get a tummy tuck lipo a breast lift and add a little bit more junk to my trunk*sigh* I’d be almost perfect………………………..smh im ashamed I’d still do it tho I just wouldn’t tell anyone
May 24, 2012 3:26 pm
I would!, Tummy tuck, lipo, and a breast lift/ implants.
May 24, 2012 10:12 pm
Why does she always look like she’s about to topple over?
May 24, 2012 10:13 pm
And yes I would love a mommy makeover!
May 25, 2012 10:09 am
This is ridiculous. If all the rich women in the spot light get these surgeries, we lose the ability to understand what real women look like. REAL WOMEN IN THEIR 50s have saggy boobs. that just it. When will we all stop the madness and accept reality.?!? What happened to aging with grace? My Jamaican grandmother, at 87, is beautiful in her own right without the lipo and the plastic? What if people actually learned to eat right and exercise to get rid of that extra pooch? I also think that older women are supposed to have a little meat on their bones so they aren’t too frail.
I have been chubby since I was a little girl and have learned to eat what works for my body and now I would say I’m pretty and healthy.
I really think women are too easily succumbing to the pressure to look unrealistically “pretty”. We needed women like Wendy Williams to be normal looking so we could feel just as glamourous as her AS WE ARE. She’s got a great personality but the outside is fake and it takes away for her confident personality. Her fake look just screams insecurity and its not cute.
May 25, 2012 10:07 pm
Hell…yes!! I am a guy with gynecomastia (man boobs) and I would sell my soul to get rid of it! lol I don’t get it, I’m in shape and I work out regularly but they just won’t go away. But I should be seeing a cosmetic surgeon next month so…wish me luck guys!!
May 26, 2012 1:59 am
Nothing for me guys!!
May 26, 2012 10:34 am
After her nasty comments about Viola Davis’ natural hair why get upset when others criticise how you look?
Wendy seems to have a problem with black women who are confident enough to be themselves.
May 26, 2012 11:11 pm
O breastfeeding what have you done. I teeter back in forth on whether or not I want some boobie reconstruction since I’m a single lady. I went from a b to a e while preggo. I havent stopped bfing yet, but I’m expecting the worse. We shall see